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Map Trace
« on: April 23, 2009, 08:09:54 AM »
I am testing the map trace feature right now.  It's in Beta and some fine tuning was required. but has been addressed.  I hope to get a demo video today.

All I can say is holy smokes this feature is awesome.
 

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Re: Map Trace
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2009, 10:28:00 AM »
Yeee!!!

thats like a little girl yeeee

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Re: Map Trace
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2009, 10:33:58 AM »
I did a demo, but because I have a glossy laptop and only my camera for video it didn't come out well.   I am going to try again later.

It is da bomb!
 

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Re: Map Trace
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2009, 11:06:06 AM »
Maybe this will help... (turn on the sound on your computer, then watch the yellow box in the fuel table to see what all the fuss is about :) )

http://www.greenringer.net/various/maptrace.mp4

Courtesy of JC Viggen who has very kindly been doing some beta testing! ;D

ps. In case you're wondering, the data-logger he is using is from Tech Edge.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2009, 11:14:25 AM by turbotuner »
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Re: Map Trace
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2009, 05:23:38 PM »
Video's fine and if I figure it out correctly, the yellow box works without any data loggers too ? Let's say the datalogging software is the "always-on-top" screen (like shown), the TT table is still being refreshed without problems ? Seems that way from the video, doesn't it.

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Re: Map Trace
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2009, 06:55:48 PM »
Yes, the yellow box works without any data-loggers.

Yes it refreshes without any problems, even if you have another app on top.
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Re: Map Trace
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2009, 08:10:12 PM »
When then can we have this ? It'll be a good tool to have for precision tuning. We'll then be needing a new/bigger RPM scale after this LOL.
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Re: Map Trace
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2009, 11:21:49 PM »
When then can we have this ?

Monday.

It'll be a good tool to have for precision tuning. We'll then be needing a new/bigger RPM scale after this LOL.

You can change the RPM scale as you wish, but you can't add more rpm points - only change the ones that are there.
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Re: Map Trace
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2009, 11:45:37 PM »
I was wondering - with all such new features and other datalogging s/w being run on the Notebook, would the mentioned PALM or pocket PC (in your planning/design stage) be viable ? I was going to set some money aside and with failing eyesight, I wonder if the miniature screens from the mobile devices is a good idea. Are these still WIP ?
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Re: Map Trace
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2009, 12:12:22 AM »
Yes they are viable, but they won't have the same functionality as the full TT on the laptop. They are primarily designed for loading different tunes, rather than for custom tuning. They are still WIP.

If you want something small to use for custom tuning, I suggest something like a netbook with XP.
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Re: Map Trace
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2009, 11:48:04 AM »
Map Trace - This will allow you to monitor where abouts in the map the engine is currently running. Further enhancements will allow you to start and stop logging at user-defined trigger conditions. With the map view data logging feature, you will be able to custom tune extremely quickly.

Sorry for the dumb question, but this trace feature was on what map?  Was is AFR's?  What was on the x/y axis that we were looking at?


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Re: Map Trace
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2009, 12:05:40 PM »
It's on all the tables in the Turbo-Tuner. So you get the map trace on the boost table, main fuel table, full throttle fuel table, and the ignition table. The video clip shows it working on the main fuel table, where x = rpm, y = engine load. The car is stationary in neutral, so the yellow box is following the engine revs at almost zero load.

What is map trace? Well basically it is an indicator (yellow box) which tells you exactly whereabouts in the table your engine is running at any moment in time. It is called map trace because it effectively traces the position on the map, just like satnavs display your position on a road map.

Why is it important / useful? At closed throttle and at full throttle it is easy to work out where you are in the table, because you are either at one end (0%) or the other end (100%). The problem arises when you want to make adjustments at part throttle. Without map trace it is pure guess work because you don't know if you are at 50% load or 75% load for example. The map trace tells you exactly where you are in terms of load and rpm so you can see immediately which values in the table you should change, if required.

In summary, the map trace feature allows you to fine tune the full range of the engine's performance envelope much more quickly and accurately, rather than just focusing on a rough-guess full throttle tune.

Whether it is useful to you depends on how finely you want to tune. For coarse tuning with very few mods it's probably not going to be of much benefit. But to get the most out of a heavily modified setup, it will be extremely useful.
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Re: Map Trace
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2009, 01:17:27 AM »
i need some money  :'(

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Re: Map Trace
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2009, 05:15:22 PM »

Thanks Adam.  This is a very neat feature.  Looking forward to my TT :).

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Re: Map Trace
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2009, 03:20:57 AM »
A new update for Turbo-Tuner is available for download. This update has the newly released Map Trace feature.

Map Trace is active by default. If you experience any problems when using Map Trace, you can disable it from the menu: Options, Map Trace Settings.

Please report any problems by email.
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